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On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 18:57, Augie Grayfox wrote:
> *v*The reason they should have given is you are trying to relay mail.  A
> *v*tactic that most spammers have used for years.  They consider you as a
> *v*spammer and should block your mail.  I certainly would if I were them.=
=3D20
> *v*Relays are bad news and cause other customers grief.
> *v*
> How the HELL is sending an email from my @cox address to my client's @xxx=
.com=20
> address be considered relaying?
> I thought that was just emailing somebody?

Well I can configure my boxes to send @cox email to @xxx.com and have it
be a relay.  Just because you have an address of @cox doesn't mean you
are not relaying.

Now if you have things configured on your side to directly use their
mail servers and not route through so it looks like a relay, then yeah
you have a legitimate gripe and I apologize.  I have never seen a
"relay" error where the host wasn't relaying.  Perhaps they have their
end that severely mis-configured.

> By your reasoning and apparantly cox' anybody that sends ANY email is rel=
aying=20
> therefore a spammer
> PULLLEEEEASE get real!
I don't know your setup, but for right or wrong I would suspect if they
have internal relay problems, they would have enough Windows customers
pissed off they would be trying to fix it.  Fortunately or unfortunately
GNU/Linux generally comes with mail servers of its own and its easy to
accidently misconfigure them.  If you have everything configured
correctly and they really are that fscked up, I apologize and you have
every right to be pissed.

> The only reason I mentioned this was to basically rant about crappie tech=
=20
> support that seems to unduly single out Linux users.=20

I haven't experienced this.  In fact, they have been quite a bit better
than most.  They don't do anything to "help", but they don't refuse to
talk to me because I simply run GNU/Linux.

> I'm sorry if I ruffled any feathers for badmouthing anybody's favorite IS=
P and=20
> no I'm not switching from cox, been with them for years. I may continue t=
o=20
> use them, but that don't mean I have to like they're discriminatory treat=
ment=20
> of non m$ users.

Um I they are not my favorite by a long shot.  Read the archives.  I
always recommend getting VDSL first and DSL second if one has the
choice.  I would not have Cox at all if I had either V/DSL available to
me.


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Derek Neighbors
GNU Enterprise
http://www.gnuenterprise.org
derek@gnue.org

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