On Sunday 07 March 2004 21:10, you wrote:
> On Sunday 07 March 2004 04:49 pm, Derek Neighbors wrote:
> > On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 09:12, jerry davis wrote:
> > > I just got on the list. I have been a fairly long time linux user, and
> > > linux evangelist. I have also been a perl programmer for 4 years.
> >
> > Speaking on long time Linux people.  Is someone on this list the owner
> > of the Kia RIO with the license plate SEGFALT (or something similar)?
> >
> > > I am from the South originally, (Alabama and Texas), but have lived in
> > > Milwaukee for almost 10 years.
> >
> > Did you go to the LUG there?  I have never been to Milwaukee, but a few
> > GNUe developers are in that area so I get to hear about their LUG quite
> > often. :)
>
> I am a member of the MLUG, for about 6 years now.
>
> > > My bride and I are moving to Phoenix in a little over 2 years (after my
> > > youngest son graduates HS). We have relatives in the Phoenx area, and
> > > have already bought land for eventual retirement in Strawberry. We have
> > > been coming to AZ for over 10 years every year to see the relatives and
> > > do sight-seeing. We are SO looking forward to coming to AZ, and we have
> > > so many plans and interests in AZ (like getting a jeep and joining a
> > > 4WD club and getting a nice telescope and joining the east side
> > > astronomy club for instance). Well anyway, you might say as the time
> > > finally draws near we are getting very excited. In fact, I am bringing
> > > my youngest son to AZ this Summer on vacation.
> >
> > Forget the 4WD club.  Get a jeep and join a geocaching team[0] instead.
> >
> > :)
>
> I'll bite -- what is a geocaching team? And why not 4WD club?
> Ohh ... I see your url at the bottom, I will look.
>
> > > One of the first things of course on my mind is Linux User Group. I am
> > > very active in the one up here, and of course want to be involved when
> > > I get to AZ.
> >
> > Welcome.  We like new friends.  What part of the valley will you be
> > coming to?  Phoenix, Mesa, Chandler, Scottsdale, Glendale, Peoria,
> > Gilbert, etc... (or just general East or West Valley) :)
>
> Don't know yet, but the relatives are in Chandler and Gilbert.
> My wife's Aunt used to be in Tempe before moving to Gilbert.
> Grandma lived in Pine for 50 years. I am right now partial to the East area
> Where would it be better to live? As far as housing is concerned? I'm not
> partial to places that have associations.

I am on the west side (Glendale to be precise.)  We like it here, and 
generally housing is a bit cheaper in the west, but be warned:  most tech 
jobs are on the east side!  I feel the same way as you about associations, 
but it's hard to avoid them in new housing.  We bought an 18-year old house 
(now 24) for that reason.  But the older homes are better-built anyway, and 
you actually get a yard, not a 5-foot strip of land around the building.  :-) 

Vaughn

>
> > [0] http://www.azgeocaching.com/
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