> yeah maybe I'm stupid but if nothing is listening to port 25 - and no
> MTA is loaded, why would you expect local mail to function? That is the
> point of an MTA.

The problem is "mail" -- you should be required to have an SMTP server
listening to send mail to local user account.

> If I stop sendmail and /bin/mail a message to myself, it is refused. If
> I start sendmail - it works.
>
> Default on Red Hat - and probably most systems these days is to listen
> only to 127.0.0.1 (localhost) and that is all you need. I guess I don't
> see the point of what you are trying to accomplish by not having
> sendmail run.

I dislike that.

I use my own "mailout" sendmail replacement which never (and can't) listen
to any network port. I need to make it use a local delivery agent to
delivery locally as needed still.

I also have a simple shell script for a mail aka mailx replacement.

Peter, maybe you can try a different mail/mailx that doesn't try to do
mail using smtp but instead just runs the sendmail binary.

You could try this verison of mail(1):
   http://www.reedmedia.net/misc/mail/mailx.sh
   http://www.reedmedia.net/misc/mail/mailx.sh.1


   Jeremy C. Reed
   http://www.reedmedia.net/


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