> ... I'm using gcc 3.3.1 with Mandrake 9.2. (I tried Mandrake 10.0 but > the new and "improved" KDevelop is ... well, don't get me started). Please do "get started" and comment further on this point. Well... since you ask, here goes: It all started because my hard drive crashed. I mean hard, like I've never seen before. Within a day it wouldn't even show up on the BIOS IDE scan. I had just done a recursive search from the root directory using Konqueror in file manager mode (maybe not a good idea, but I'm not sure.) The search never finished and the system crashed. After that it wouldn't boot any more. After a few choice words and suspicions about Konqueror, I accepted my fate and prepared to re-install Mandrake. Since I had to reinstall anyway I figured I'd check for a new version. 10.0 looked stable and a little Googling didn't turn up any bad reviews, so I installed that. The OS looks pretty much the same as 9.2, but with a bunch of new Everaldo icons and graphics. The biggest change I saw was in KDevelop. This isn't "feature creep," its feature insanity. Everything is different. They have just gone totally hog-wild trying to be everything to everyone. It claims to support just about every programming language you can think of, but in my opinion doesn't do a very good job with C++ any more as a result. All of the project management dialogs are different, the menus are different, and when I generated the simple console-mode "Hello World," project using the project wizard, it wouldn't compile. I think that was what convinced me to go back to 9.2. I've been using 9.2 for about a year now and it is the most stable easy-install distro I have used. Of course, my only point of comparison is RH7.2, which is what I started out with. I've found an easy way to restore Linux after a reinstall is to make a little shell script that concatenates all the config files I've modified into a single file with a file-name at the start of each section, and keep in on another machine. Then after the raw install I can login via Telnet/SSH (from a Windows box) and just cut/paste each of the config files as needed. I had Samba going within 10 minutes that way. After that a lot of the work restoring my development web server is drag&drop. As for the new grafix, they look spiffy, but as someone said in a recent article about WinXP, they make the OS look like a Fisher-Price toy. I switched back to the standard KDE icon set. Not exactly a rigorous review, but there you have it. Once interesting point that took a little head-scratching: The Mandrake web site doesn't show any links to mirrors for earlier versions, unless you want to download from Brazil. But if you poke around a little the existing mirrors still have 9.2 and a bunch of others. I guess they figure 9.2 is good enough for Brazilians. Que pasa? -- Phil Mattison Ohmikron Corp. 480-722-9595 ext 1 602-820-9452 mobile --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss