We have one customer who makes every employee sign a waiver which states that they won't use the internet for personal use. If they are caught doing so then the employee is terminated immediately. Sounds harsh but very effective. I have setup several Smoothwall boxes and it seems to work okay. Another solution is Astaro Security Linux. It costs 390.00 for 10 users and you can install it on pretty much any hardware. It has more security features built into it than a Smoothwall box will ever have. We resell the product and it seems to work well. It has built in features for anti-spam (free) and you can also add anti-virus for mail and web, web filtering and intrusion protection. The interface is through an https connection and it also incorporates and update service where patches are automatically downloaded to the firewall. Application proxies are also used which gives you a little better protection than packet filtering. All the major processes are chrooted so there is some thought with regards to security. It's worth taking a looking at. There site is http://www.astaro.com -----Original Message----- From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Alan Dayley Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 10:46 PM To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: OT: Educating users about Security Jim said: > You can lead a horse to water and make him drink if you lead him in far > enough. Trouble is, you will be in water just as deep as the horse. ;^) Alan --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss