More on my problem ... I *am* able to login to KDE. All I can say about that is that KDE is real nice and all, but I don't *want* to login to KDE. I've never used it other than to play around with it, and have no more desire to switch than I do to up and move to a new state. But that's how I'll work until I can get this disaster figured out. I'll save words of outrage and frustration for a more appropriate time. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss