Craig,

I appreciate the fast reply you gave. The tone didn't bother me. I understood 
where you were coming from. I myself am not entirely pleased with the 
situation I've been put into, but I need to come up with a solution anyway.
I believe in the end I will be modifying a pop server to check mail elsewhere 
once a user logs in, as was suggested (I think) by technomage...

I respect the answers I get from people on this list, because we all have 
experience in different backgrounds and different levels. 
I've been using Linux for almost 13 years, sometimes I still feel like a 
newbie. Sometimes I get stumped on something and I'm getting too technical 
about it and a newbie will offer his noob advice, and it's just dumb.. But in 
it's naiveness I realize I was going about something all wrong.

I believe the community we share on this list does not solely depend on how 
long or how much experience we've got, it's our different view points that 
make it work. Which is why someone who might have no clue what is wrong, 
might point out some obvious simple minute detail, that in our technical 
level of thinking we over looked.

Or in trying to come up with a quick solution, we may fail to realize the 
overhead we may need to pursue something, or the security hazards...
Kind of like me having the iron-power to do this.. lol
It's not right, but I have the power and they want it...

And about your harshness in answering my question, thank you. I have been at 
this a long time. I'm not looking for a friendly noob answer, I want the 
answer, short and sweet so I can get to work... I understand how you reply 
depending on the persons needs. I appreciate that. It saves me time.

I'm sorry I had to ask such a stupid question, and that brought the list into 
this frenzy... But needless to say, I still have a problem, and whether I 
like it or not, I have to deal with it. Until I can convince those above me 
otherwise.

nathan

On Thursday 31 March 2005 19:30, Craig White wrote:
> It has been suggested on another thread that the tone of some of my
> messages might 'be a bit kinder'
>
> I tend to give answers, when I can, suitable for the level of the person
> asking the questions and thus the answers can be somewhat abrupt when I
> expect that the person who asked the question can understand what I am
> saying. Obviously an answer to a 'newbie' to Linux has to be done on an
> entirely different manner, more attention to the exact details and
> somewhat different in tone.
>
> Thus, when Nathan - a long time PLUG'er and long time and knowledgable
> Linux user asks a question, my answers are going to be short, as
> specific as necessary and include most of my concerns about why I am
> thinking that it is likely to be a bad idea that he go down that path.
>
> When Mike Enriquez asked about how to make 3 different sound cards work,
> I gave him a longer, more explained version of how I would handle it and
> he went out and bought a new card anyway  ;-)  Surely my tone on that
> exchange couldn't be questioned (or can it?) Needless to say, my advice
> with that new card isn't going to change.
>
> I have now looked back on the messages that I have posted during the
> month of March and the only thing that I think someone could have
> possibly objected to was my desire not to have the list spammed with
> GMail invite offers - if that was an effrontery on the successful
> commerce on this list (or any other), please let me know.
>
> Craig
>
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