I think there's a real answer for identity theft: Whenever someone applies for credit, make them be photographed and fingerprinted. Nobody would be so stupid as to walk into the bank office and have a picture taken if they were committing a felony. This reduces the problem to misappropriated existing accounts at least. I never saw how useful the validation number could be; presumably anywhere the 16-figure number can be stolen from, the 3-figure one can too. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss