Okay, then if programs aren't dependant on the file manager why is it that 
when I tried to apt-get install a program  it updated KDE?
(if I remember what happened correctly)
Here is what happened, I did anuprade and broke everything. I then reinstalled 
and tried installing needed individual programs but whenever I did that apt 
updated a bunch of other stuff (dependencies) which broke the system again.

On Thursday 22 February 2007 7:26 pm, Michael Havens wrote:
> I know what I want.
> ftp://ftp.wustl.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mepis/2003 (cd1 and 2)
>
> This is the only thing that worked 100% on my system. Geting The aps of
> that year is going to be a challenge. Would anyone be able to give me
> pointers on finding them? I don't know what is on cd2. Supposedly 1000s of
> other programs but who knows. I guess that an apt-get wouldn't work because
> that will try to upgrade KDE which is what is breaking everything. I don't
> think ubuntu, kubuntu, no xubuntu would work well if gnome and KDE are
> pretty much the same in what they use. (xubuntu uses modern gnome and KDE
> applications)
>
> I humbly entreat your assistance in this matter.
>
> I'm all ears to other suggestions!
>
> So this is why they put together a bunch of programs with a release of an
> os! Pretty good idea.
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