Amen, brother! I hate the whole iTunes mentality. I organize my music in directories like any sane person should (and even like iTunes does anyway). I don't like my music player taking a minute to load up because it has to scan all my music for new stuff and load the existing library. I just want it to play the damn music! Back in the day, XMMS was where it was at; a nice simple winamp clone that was fast and got the job done. It also has some command line options you can use to advance tracks, pause/play, add tracks to the queue, start a new queue, etc. XMMS2 split things into a client and server, which is a cool idea, but it complicates the matter of just having a simple music player. Audacious is a pretty decent xmms clone that adds a lot of nice plugins (Scrobbling my plays is a definite requirement for me, and it's there). If you're in to the whole music manager thing, Exaile isn't too bad, but it's anything but a light piece of software and, at least for me, locks up a lot. Rhythmbox is crap as far as I'm concerned; most of the plugins don't work right, it's ugly and it's slow. Amarok was pretty cool when I used it a while back, but unless your using KDE, you have to install a ton of crap to run it. Songbird I haven't used since it was version 0.2; cool concept and great for streaming and downloading music, but I don't need my music player to also be a web browser all the time. Anyway, sorry to keep running on here, but the state of music software annoys the hell out of me. At least we have a choice, unlike those poor souls running OSX..... i hate iTunes SO much! As for you, check out Audacious. If you want a simple player that is quick, has a decent feature set and some command line bindings, that's your guy. -Joe Andrew "Tuna" Harris wrote: > I'm looking for some music software that doesn't suck. My experience > with Amarok was excellent, but there are certain things that I have > developed a strong distaste for, a few of which Amarok more than readily > picks up on. We went our separate ways, peacefully but still longing for > something... I know not about Amarok but I have not found what my heart > seeks in this world. > > But here's what I'm sick of. > > * Integration with a specific desktop environment > > If Amarok had a nice GUI that didn't require mad things like kdelibs, I > would happily readopt it. Maybe something like FLTK or just plain QT > without this KDE integration nonsense. Same with Rhythmbox, and its > GNOME nonsense. I shouldn't have to compile and install GConf as well if > it's only going to be used for like one or two apps! > > * C#/Mono apps for Linux > > I don't even understand this. Call me a purist, but when you think, "GUI > application for Linux to organize and play music", what possesses you to > think "Ah! C# with Mono!" Don't get me wrong, Mono is a wonderful thing. > It can be very useful for getting .NET stuff to work on Linux with > little to no modification. But what exactly makes Mono C# the language > of choice for... anything, really? > > * Inability to Control Things without using the GUI > > Here's something that should, in one way or another, be built into every > GUI app, ever. I had this trouble with XChat. I just hate it when I > absolute MUST have the GUI to do things, the seemingly simplest of > tasks. It's like bringing twelve lead-plated life rafts on a cruise. > There is seemingly no situation in which you would ever need them, yet > the fax said you have to bring them. > > Pretty much, I need something that doesn't suck, is written in a > somewhat respectable language, and demand a crapload of dependencies > that I won't need in a week or when I get tired of the software. > > Right now I'm using Songbird, and I started hating it about five minutes > into using it. > > inb4 letmegooglethatforyou.com. I have googled, and I found this: > http://mpd.wikia.com/ > > Anyone use it before? What do you think? > > Thanks! > > -tuna > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss