OK, I think I found the problem with ntpd not getting any peers from my server list. I was starting ntpd from the command line with the following syntax: ntpd -I eth0 -D 4 -n eth0 is my internal network. I got to looking at the "no interface found for..." messages and thought I would try adding a -I eth1 where eth1 is my external outside network connection through the Cox cable modem. So now my command syntax is: ntpd -u ntp -I eth0 -I eth1 -D 4 Once I added the "-I eth1" I now seem to have the three external peers listed when I run "ntpq -p" This still does not explain why ntpdate hangs with no replies however. The ntpdate command sequence I used does not list anything other than the servers like this: ntpdate -v -d dewey.lib.ci.phoenix.az.us ntp.drydog.com no restrictions on the interface or anything so I am still not understanding why that does not work. Plus when I try to start the ntp service from the init script there is no restrictions on the interface like I was using from the command line. Anyway I think there is still some issue with the ntpdatge command hanging and since the ntp init script always calls ntpdate before starting ntpd I am still not going to be able to enable the ntp service on startup. Some progress has been made however. -- Steve --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss