I have a myTouch since November. I like it, though it is laggy sometimes, like a computer using the swap file too much. If I were to buy now, I'd get a Nexus One. As you your requirements... - Most of your list is not possible on any Android phone unless you replace the software with some other build. There are many out there and probably can do what you want but you will then be outside the boundaries of support from T-Mobile. For you and many here on this list this is not a big problem. Just thought you should know the limitation. -- As far as I know, you will have to replace the OS build in order to get the following features: > . bluetooth tethering > . ssh out > . root access > . play ogg-vorbis > . ssh in across cell network > . USB tethering > . tetherable via wifi - As far as I know you will not get any of the following features with any of the Android phones currently available: > . tether and call at the same time > . on phone internet connection and call at the same time > . phone to phone communication via bluetooth > . phone to phone communication via wifi > . can use external display ( monitor and/or TV ) - For the feature "contact, etc. syncing w/ GNU/Linux" I don't know what to answer. All Android phones sync contacts, calendar, email with your Google account. So if your GNU/Linux contact management can sync with your Google accounts, it is also syncing with your phone. - The phone comes with three email apps: -- GMail is for your, um, GMail. -- Mail is for some general email account somewhere so you can use this one for your own servers. -- Work Email will connect to a (ugh) Exchange server and get email that way. -- I have several email accounts that feed to my GMail account so I can do them all in the GMail app. - The Motorola models are "TVO-ized." They check all binaries for a specific signature. No signature, the binary will not run. This means only official builds of OS can be used on those phones. In other words, don't get one from Motorola if you want to change the software. I have friends with the Motorola Cliq who love the phone except that they can only update it via official releases, which are slow coming. Alan On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM, der.hans wrote: > moin moin, > > I need to get new phones. Which of the t-mobile android phones best meet > the following requirements? > > Required features: > . bluetooth tethering > . ability to turn off GPS if one is available > . ssh out > . bluetooth > . connect to my own mail servers > . root access > . play ogg-vorbis > . contact, etc. syncing w/ GNU/Linux > > Desired features: > . tether and call at the same time > . on phone internet connection and call at the same time > . ssh in across cell network > . USB tethering > . fully functional while charging > . root access w/o jailbreaking > . wifi > . tetherable via wifi > . phone to phone communication via bluetooth > . phone to phone communication via wifi > . GPS > . camera and video > . external storage card, prefer sdmc > . can use external display ( monitor and/or TV ) > > Any features that I forgot? > > t-mobile has Motorola CLIQ, Samsung Behold II, t-mobile myTouch and G1. > Which is the better phone? I will be trying to do this w/o a contract, so > deals don't matter and all phones appears to be almost equally expensive. > I am interested in consumer ready, easy to use as this one is for my wife. > > What services/features are included in the service plan? If not, what is > the add on cost? > > . cell phone calling? > . internet access ( not just web )? > . tethering? > . gps? > > I still haven't completely decided whether I will go with the Nexxus One > or N900 for my own use. Will the N900 work with t-mobile? I believe it > will. > > I could consider ATT if I go with the N900 and it works well with ATT, but > as I understand it the Nexxus One currently will not work fully with ATT. > > Does t-mobile carry a Linux-based, large numbered, low-cost phone? This > one just needs to be able to make and receive calls on the family plan. > Receiving text messages on the family plan would also be good. > > ciao, > > der.hans > -- > #  http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes        http://www.TwoGeekTechs.com/ > #  Director of Engineering, FonWallet Transaction Solutions, Inc. > #  Boredom is self-inflicted...der.hans > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss