I don't take any position on the flood of various ideas which have been flowing through this list lately. If anything, I've been just hoping it would subside and I can go back to expecting that this list will be mainly about free software again. Occasional political posting? No problem. Vehement political arguments? Pointless. Nobody ever convinced anyone of anything by arguing via email. I end up feeling a bit powerless in the face of a wave of trollery which doesn't seem likely to subside any time soon. So here's what I propose : If you are tired of these off topic postings, and want them to cease, please just reply to the "ditching Apple due to boycotts" thread with an empty message body. Leave the subject, but empty the body. This should be a clear, but polite, way to note to the thread participants you'd rather they take the discussion elsewhere. Lest I be called indifferent, ignorant, or whatever, I will say I care about the issues being discussed. Absolutely. I have my opinions about the topics at hand, but I don't believe an email list is a productive place to make those opinions known. All the current climate on this list does is discourage me. Perhaps no one else cares for my suggestion, but I feel like something needs to be said lest we lose this list entirely to the trolls. So, if you're tired of this, reply to the "ditching Apple due to boycotts" thread with an empty message. Make your (very quiet) voice known! :) alex --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss