I am with you, Kristian. I have watched this LUG be reborn into a vibrant community. I for one will NOT let Joshua and a few other stubborn ideologues interrupt the great technical discussions on this mailing list. btw, could you trip Kobe on his way to the airport? Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote: > Guys. I live in Los Angeles and am on every public mailing list in > the world, even in other languages. I am sad to see such discussions > turn hostile on a LUG list, but I have never seen such activity in all > my years. I hope we can all get along and share in something that we > can all agree on -- a useful discussion of Linux and related topics. > Now who is with me? :) Let's s not be divided by opinion, but united > by love of this wonderful Operating System... > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: >> I've stayed out of this latest round of off-topic threads. I am happy >> to see vibrant discussion. I am unhappy to see personal attacks and >> other silliness. I'm unhappy to see it go on and on. >> >> This is enough. It's just enough. >> >> I don't go to a email list or forum on topic A to be drown in >> discussions about topic W. That topic W may be important, the points >> and counter-points offered in brilliance and courtesy doesn't matter. >> If the venue is supposed to be about topic A, the majority of the >> conversation should be about topic A. Etiquette and respect for the >> community around the chosen topic dictate that other topics should be >> minimal. >> >> It doesn't matter how strongly you feel about what someone said about >> some off-topic post. Continuing to reply off-topic such that the main >> purpose of the community is drowning into the background is >> disrespectful. Don't do it. For example, it would be rude of me to >> go to a meeting of alcoholics anonymous and use my turn to talk so >> that I might espouse the benefits of a vegetarian diet. Don't do it. >> >> - Using the delete key is not the answer because that only masks the >> destruction of the group's purpose. And only masks it for one person. >> Same with filters. >> - Flagging as "OT" is helpful but when the OT posts dwarf the >> purpose-oriented information, such a tag is nearly useless. >> - Moderation is not the answer because that will suck volunteer's time >> and smacks of "babysitter-ism" Do we really need to be forced into >> good manners? Really? >> >> This is a Linux email list created by a Linux User Group for the >> purposes of discussing Linux and subjects directly related to Linux. >> Period. Politics should only be discussed when it directly effects >> Linux/OSS/FS use and promotion in some way. To continue all this >> discussion of boycotts, immigration and the like is killing the core >> meaning of the group. >> >> Stop. Please. >> >> Alan >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss