O n 2013-05-09 08:35, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Hans, > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, der.hans wrote: > > > Am 07. May, 2013 schwätzte keith smith so: > > > > moin moin, > > > > > > I'd like to thank all those who make PLUG possible. I know you have put > >> in a lot of effort to keep PLUG alive over the years. I think I have been > >> on the list for maybe 14 years. 1999??? I've enjoyed all the help and > >> guidance I have received from the list members. > >> > >> Thank you all!! > >> > > > > Having a community that is useful and valuable is the main thing I get out > > of PLUG. It's good to get confirmation that it is useful and valuable to > > others. > > > > Thank you for the thank you :). > > > > I have had a difficult experience trying to speak with one of the main PLUG > resources for about the last 3 years. > > Over the years now, when I approach him at any of the public venues. he > holds up his left ring finger in full view of other members, at me from > across the room, as a way to say "He's Married". This has consistently > happened in front of other women in PLUG like Jill and Kaia (even at SCALE Having been called out by name, all I can really say is I have no idea what you're talking about, Lisa. While I don't discount what you may have experienced, I've never witnessed anything like what you described. As such I can not support your story. If there is an individual who you feel is singling you out as a female though, I'd be happy to help mediate the issue, off-list. I have no problems with anyone in PLUG. Hopefully all who know me know that I like all y'all, and think you're a great bunch. And be sure I'll let you know with loud and clear snark and sarcasm if that ever changes! :) - Jill > with a large room full of my peers). I have never interacted personally in > any dating way with this member. Others agreed that they consider it not > only rude, but sexist, and something that would be appalling to Linus and > Open Source gurus of my age, as well as long term friends like Chris DeBona > (Google), Randal Schwartz, and others like Carla Schroder (OReilly), Greg > KH (Linux Foundation). Additionally, my calls were not answered and my > email were ignored. > > When I first started the Hackfests, I had a very difficult time finding a > venue where networking and other resources allowed the type of Lab we > wanted to do. I was "ordered" not to move the Hackfest. That was not > similar to Linus' Benevelant Leadership model which I was accustomed in > Oregon! I ignored it, as Carla and others recommended and continued to > stay in the solution building a viable group and finding a good home for > those who wanted such a lab. > > What would you have recommended I do? What steps would you expect any > group voting on status or censure of such a member or officer? > > > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss