On 2017-03-08 12:51, Bob Elzer wrote: All this comes down to morals. Our constitution will not survive an immoral people. Most of what the federal government is doing is not authorized by the U.S. Constitution. > They were probably just seeing into the future. Lol > > On Mar 8, 2017 12:39 PM, "Anon Anon" wrote: > >> Remember the good old days when people who believed their tv was >> watching them were crazy? >> >> On Mar 8, 2017 12:23 PM, "Matthew Crews" >> wrote: >> Many smart TVs these days have built in cameras and microphones... >> >> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017, 12:21 Bob Elzer wrote: >> >> Well they are welcome to listen in on me. But I don't have a >> listening device, they are welcome to send me on of those 65" >> Samsung devices, I'll make room for it. >> >> Are you reading this guy's ? >> >> On Mar 7, 2017 5:52 PM, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >> >> yeah, you are right there. However, they will have to eventually >> justify those expenses, so the more expensive we make it for them, >> the more likely it is that they may be forced to give up and let us >> have more secure products. >> >> one other point to offer, we might end up having to file an FOIA >> request to get the source code for all of these malware tools. then >> we could take them apart, figure out how to disarm them and create >> more secure linux devices. Then again, one can dream. :) >> >> -eric >> From the central office of the Technomage Guild >> special office: cyber security >> >> On Mar 7, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Anon Anon wrote: >> >> We could start a movement or group but they spend a lot of money >> infiltrating those groups. There isnt a lot of ways to reliably >> compete against their tactics.... >> >> On Mar 7, 2017 17:07, "Eric Oyen" wrote: >> OMFG! >> *sigh* leave it to bureaucrats to completely foul things up as >> usual. Now, had this come out some 20 years ago, people would have >> thought it to be in the realm of science fiction. oh wait, there was >> one such film: swordfish! >> >> perhaps its time we all started a consortium to combat this? I would >> rather see a secure system that requires multiple levels of security >> than this. >> >> -eric >> from the central office of the Technomage Guild. >> Special office: cyber security. >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Keith Smith --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss