Am 21. Nov, 2019 schwätzte Matt Graham so:

moin moin Matt,

> On 2019-11-21 16:34, der.hans wrote:
>> Is it really, really easy to install and run debian and Ubuntu on Apple
>> laptops nowdays? Everything works? Networking, sound, hibernate, etc.?
>
> It was slightly annoying to run Gentoo on an older OS X machine.  Part of 
> this was because it's Gentoo.  Part of this was because it was 2017 and 
> they've figured out a lot more stuff now.  I had no problems with wired 
> networking, but wireless required some fooling around with kernel modules 
> that weren't marked stable yet.  The whole experience was a lot like the 
> Lenovo E595 install I did a few months back in that everything eventually 
> worked, it just took more time than I would've liked. 
> https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux says they are having trouble with 
> sound on the really new machines, but lots of other stuff works at least 
> partially.

It probably won't be a really new machine, but sound is a required feature
for me in this particular case. There are several sound applications I
need for work.

>> Does Apple hardware also have UEFI and other misfeatures?
>
> Yes.  rEFInd worked reasonably well for me so long as you don't need to 
> change your kernel boot parameters all the time.
>
>> Are there any decent Apple laptops that have AMD processors?
>
> Not AFAICT.

Extra security exploits for fun.

ciao,

der.hans

>> Can you add more RAM or are you stuck with whatever it came with
>
> I believe you're stuck with whatever it came with.  ICBW.
>
>

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