Am 21. Nov, 2019 schwätzte Stephen Partington so: moin moin, > Do your best to avoid a mac with the t2 security chip. That basically > renders the SSD useless. Hadn't heard of that. Thanks for the heads up. > I would also suggest you run refind for your boot. It will make life > easier for you to swap back and forth for firmware updates. Hopefully I won't have to do much of that. ciao, der.hans > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 5:36 PM Matt Graham wrote: > >> On 2019-11-21 16:34, der.hans wrote: >>> Is it really, really easy to install and run debian and Ubuntu on >>> Apple >>> laptops nowdays? Everything works? Networking, sound, hibernate, etc.? >> >> It was slightly annoying to run Gentoo on an older OS X machine. Part >> of this was because it's Gentoo. Part of this was because it was 2017 >> and they've figured out a lot more stuff now. I had no problems with >> wired networking, but wireless required some fooling around with kernel >> modules that weren't marked stable yet. The whole experience was a lot >> like the Lenovo E595 install I did a few months back in that everything >> eventually worked, it just took more time than I would've liked. >> https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux says they are having trouble >> with sound on the really new machines, but lots of other stuff works at >> least partially. >> >>> Does Apple hardware also have UEFI and other misfeatures? >> >> Yes. rEFInd worked reasonably well for me so long as you don't need to >> change your kernel boot parameters all the time. >> >>> Are there any decent Apple laptops that have AMD processors? >> >> Not AFAICT. >> >>> Can you add more RAM or are you stuck with whatever it came with >> >> I believe you're stuck with whatever it came with. ICBW. >> >> -- >> Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress >> There is no Darkness in Eternity >> But only Light too dim for us to see. >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org # SeaGL is Nov 15-16 in Seattle - https://SeaGL.org/ # "so now the US army is sacrificing goats" -- Alice Cooper, 15Sep2004