The only fair tax is no tax. Otherwise someone is being hit disproportionately. Of course that someone varies based on how you score it. Thus: fair tax = no tax. On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Abolishing the IRS? Sure, that's got to save a mint! > > While I haven't digested the fair tax initiate, I groan knowing how much > American's hate fairness. > > I also know in a very deep way, that the only real solutions will have to > be broad reaching and deep, while American's are incapable of simplistic > change, especially where finances are concerned. > > www.Obnosis.com | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis | > hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > ------------------------------ > January PLUG HackFest = Kristy Westphal, AZ Department of Economic Security > Forensics @ UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM > > > From: kitepilot@kitepilot.com > > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > Subject: Re: Linux Administration > > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 07:33:15 -0500 > > > > > http://www.fairtax.org/ > > ... > > > > > > > > Joshua Zeidner writes: > > > > > The cost of living would be much lower if we weren't taking tax > > > money to prop up real estate prices. -jmz > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: > > >> That's enough to feed 4 children and a grandparent in India. Who cares > what > > >> is in America? > > >> > > >> www.Obnosis.com | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis | > > >> hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > > >> ________________________________ > > >> January PLUG HackFest = Kristy Westphal, AZ Department of Economic > Security > > >> Forensics @ UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM > > >> Take the Black [Security] Pill & leave IT-Marketing-Matrix, or take > the Blue > > >> [MS Upgrade] Pill & stay happily ignorant... > > >> > > >>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:31:55 -0800 > > >>> From: eculbert@yahoo.com > > >>> Subject: RE: Linux Administration > > >>> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > >>> > > >>> Yep, and that's $1 below the new minimum wage starting at midnight! > > >>> > > >>> 73 > > >>> > > >>> Ed/ke7feg ....Now that November is here, April can wait! > > >>> > > >>> On 2/23/2007 the morse code requirement was dropped for getting > > >>> a ham license. Now just pass the written exams which are on the > > >>> web at arrl.org for questions and http://www.kb0mga.net/exams/ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --- On Wed, 12/31/08, Jason wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > From: Jason > > >>> > Subject: RE: Linux Administration > > >>> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" < > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> > > >>> > Cc: klsmith2020@yahoo.com > > >>> > Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 1:14 PM > > >>> > I want to spend $250/month but I want you *available* 12 > > >>> > hours/day? > > >>> > Now, I can do it for $250/month retainer, billable hours at > > >>> > $50/hour > > >>> > with a 1 hour minimum per contact. So, once you have my > > >>> > attention for 5 > > >>> > hours, you pay more. > > >>> > > > >>> > That's the way I would run the agreement. > > >>> > > > >>> > He even states an estimate of 10 hours/week. So, that > > >>> > translates to > > >>> > $6.25/hour. > > >>> > > > >>> > Pretty comical. :) > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 04:51 +0000, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > >>> > > I worked 60 hours a week at $30,000 in 1995 at an ISP. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Working with people who could juggle 20 projects with > > >>> > laughing ease, > > >>> > > rebuild a 24X7 server and swap IP Addresses, knowing > > >>> > how to clear the > > >>> > > arp cache on everything (which we, of course had > > >>> > access to, > > >>> > > controlling all routers, switches and firewalls) > > >>> > pretty much ruined > > >>> > > me. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I also have some contempt for the American who > > >>> > egotistically holds > > >>> > > down a chair, after working with dull and > > >>> > inexperienced, yet extremely > > >>> > > motivated Hindis. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > www.Obnosis.com | > > >>> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis | > > >>> > > hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > >>> > > January PLUG HackFest = Kristy Westphal, AZ Department > > >>> > of Economic > > >>> > > Security Forensics @ UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > >>> > > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:09:37 -0700 > > >>> > > From: mike@garfias.org > > >>> > > To: klsmith2020@yahoo.com; > > >>> > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > >>> > > Subject: Re: Linux Administration > > >>> > > > > >>> > > What a dork. And expecting good people for that much? > > >>> > Jeez. Maybe if > > >>> > > I was a junior guy and needed beer money it might be > > >>> > ok, but no > > >>> > > thanks. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:58 PM, keith smith > > >>> > > > >>> > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I see this stuff from time to time. He is in > > >>> > for a rude > > >>> > > awakening since they are asleep while we are > > >>> > awake. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Funny thing is the phone shops are starting to > > >>> > come back to > > >>> > > the US. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Even though I can hire a PHP programmer for $5 > > >>> > - $12 and hour > > >>> > > offshore I would never. I've seen their > > >>> > work and I'll pass. > > >>> > > Not to mention the copyright issues that > > >>> > arise. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > ------------------------ > > >>> > > Keith Smith > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > --- On Sun, 12/28/08, Lisa Kachold > > >>> > > > >>> > > wrote: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > From: Lisa Kachold > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Subject: RE: Linux Administration > > >>> > > To: klsmith2020@yahoo.com, > > >>> > > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > >>> > > Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 6:25 > > >>> > PM > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I personally was slightly aghast that > > >>> > people were > > >>> > > offering to provide offshore based > > >>> > linux > > >>> > > administration for $250 for a month? > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Did you see that? > > >>> > > > > >>> > > www.Obnosis.com | > > >>> > > > > >>> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis | > > >>> > > hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > ______________________________________________________ > > >>> > > January PLUG HackFest = Kristy > > >>> > Westphal, AZ Department > > >>> > > of Economic Security Forensics @ UAT > > >>> > 1/10/09 12-3PM > > >>> > > Take the Black [Linux BT3] Pill & > > >>> > leave > > >>> > > SecurityMatrix, or take the Blue > > >>> > [XP/Vista Pill] & > > >>> > > stay happily ignorant. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > ______________________________________________________ > > >>> > > Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:00:32 -0800 > > >>> > > From: klsmith2020@yahoo.com > > >>> > > Subject: Re: Linux Administration > > >>> > > To: > > >>> > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I'm not sure what you are trying > > >>> > to tell us Lisa. > > >>> > > Please be more verbose. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > ------------------------ > > >>> > > Keith > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > --- On Sat, 12/27/08, Lisa Kachold > > >>> > > wrote: > > >>> > > From: Lisa Kachold > > >>> > > > >>> > > Subject: Linux Administration > > >>> > > To: > > >>> > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > >>> > > Date: Saturday, December 27, > > >>> > 2008, 7:02 PM > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > http://www.getafreelancer.com/projects/Linux/Level-System-Admin-for-EST.html > > >>> > > > > >>> > > www.Obnosis.com | > > >>> > > > > >>> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis | > > >>> > hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > ______________________________________________ > > >>> > > January PLUG HackFest = Kristy > > >>> > Westphal, AZ > > >>> > > Department of Economic > > >>> > Security Forensics @ > > >>> > > UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM > > >>> > > Take the Black [Linux BT3] > > >>> > Pill & leave > > >>> > > SecurityMatrix, or take the > > >>> > Blue [XP/Vista > > >>> > > Pill] & stay happily > > >>> > ignorant. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > ______________________________________________ > > >>> > > Send e-mail faster without > > >>> > improving your > > >>> > > typing skills. 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