Is freenode the only access to PLUG-AZ? I seem to have been kicked out of a channel because my "router" is buggy, some exploit they say I am susceptible to and there for are banned from the #Ubuntu channel entirely. The ops think its funny to gang up and pelt you with conflicting answers and when you call them on their behavior you get lectured on net etiquette, kettle? Needless to say I am too old for kid games, is there another server that has access to the channel? Sean Parsons