This one is even better! Which seller should I go with? Has anyone heard of any of them? On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > My computer (IBM NetVista was produced sometime between 2000 and 2002. > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_NetVista) > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Stephen wrote: > >> I have an old ed 120 gb drive. Only reason I don't use it is because its >> noisy as hell. >> >> In this case I would really look into a small hardware update if you can >> as your hitting a limit for replacement availability. >> >> And if you get a new Seagate or wd drive (retail not OEM) you can usually >> get some tools to sidestep some of those limits. But if the hardware can >> see it Linux will use it. >> On Nov 20, 2011 12:30 AM, "Michael Havens" wrote: >> >>> i need too look closer... it is a lap top drive. Darn! >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Michael Havens wrote: >>> >>>> how about this drive: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ide+hard+drive&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7836135078448000879&sa=X&ei=vqrITpTSDqOyiQKi4837Dw&ved=0CLwBEPICMAM >>>> >>>> it is only 80 gb. Is that too big? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Michael Havens wrote: >>>> >>>>> I gave up on the external hd aspirations because my mobo probably >>>>> won't boot a USB. You say that older mobos have problems recognizing larger >>>>> disks.... 160 gb is probably one of those. Could I partition it maybe and >>>>> it would see more of it... is there a work around? >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Jim March <1.jim.march@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Let me add some hard disk advice, regardless of whether you do >>>>>> IDE/PATA or SATA. >>>>>> >>>>>> Laptop-class drives (2.5") are smaller and slower than a >>>>>> desktop-class drive (3.5"). BUT the laptop drives are much tougher, esp. >>>>>> in terms of drop-resistance, and put out a lot less heat. >>>>>> >>>>>> You'll pay more for the gigabyte for a laptop-class drive. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're using a laptop IDE drive in a desktop computer, you need an >>>>>> adapter to make it work. Costs $5 at Fry's Electronics. On SATA drives >>>>>> the connectors are the same for laptop or desktop. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have a motherboard without SATA support, a SATA PCI adapter >>>>>> card is very cheap - about $20 tops (Fry's has tons). It can be a much, >>>>>> much better idea to buy a SATA drive plus PCI adapter now as opposed to an >>>>>> IDE drive for an older motherboard. By jumping to SATA right away you gain >>>>>> the ability to upgrade to a hotter SATA-support motherboard later. And >>>>>> usually, the SATA PCI adapter card will let you run a big SATA drive on a >>>>>> motherboard that doesn't otherwise support big IDE/PATA drives, because the >>>>>> SATA PCI adapter takes over a lot of the hard disk support firmware from >>>>>> the motherboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> The best hard disks today are made by Western Digital, in my >>>>>> opinion. A very close second is Seagate. Comparatively speaking, the >>>>>> Japanese such as Hitachi, Toshiba and Fujitsu suck. In terms of >>>>>> reliability Samsungs from Korea are actually better than the Japanese >>>>>> drives. Maxtor is Seagate's "budget line" - avoid. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're buying an external drive that is NOT made by one of the >>>>>> above drive-makers (LaCie, Buffalo, SimpleTech, many MANY more) then you're >>>>>> buying a pig in a poke. You have no idea what brand of actual drive is in >>>>>> there unless you either crack the case open (breaking the warrantee most >>>>>> likely) or you use software tools to probe the make/model info. If however >>>>>> you buy a Western Digital external drive fr'instance, you can take it to >>>>>> the bank that there's a WD drive in there. Same concept for all the rest, >>>>>> except that Seagate owns Maxtor and might slap a Maxtor drive under a >>>>>> Seagate-brand chassis. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:18 PM, JD Austin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> IDE, EIDE, and PATA (Parallel ATA) have the same interface. >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Older motherboards may have trouble recognizing larger drives. >>>>>>> IDE/EIDE/PATA is on it's way out.... get SATA if you have a choice >>>>>>> since it's unlikely you'll find a motherboard with EIDE on it. >>>>>>> Open Box= someone else didn't like it. >>>>>>> I'd go SATA if I were you (supports native hot swapping). >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA >>>>>>> I often use laptop drives for such things. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 18:48, Michael Havens wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this is the ad: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.macconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=8239542&cm_mmc=Base-_-8239542-_-Used-_-WN3&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8239542 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a sales guy telling me at http://www.macconnection.com/that an eide drive (theirs) will work on an IDE system. Is this true. As >>>>>>>>> stated before I don't know if my system is ide or eide. I have an IBM >>>>>>>>> NetVista computer. This is what they're trying to sell: >>>>>>>>> Open Box Western Digital 160GB Caviar SE EIDE 3.5" Hard Drive - >>>>>>>>> 8MB Cache >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: