how do you get those free books? or at least those books that are under 5 dollars? They want too much for Head First Programming. (maybe not to much but more than I can swing) :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > thankks James. I'll look into getting thay one. > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:11 AM, James Dugger wrote: > >> A good book for entry level programing is Head First Programing by >> O'Reilly books you can get it in pdf form through O'yoReilly. It is easy >> to follow and is designed for people with little or no formal training in >> programing. >> >> I gave it to my 13 year old son this summer and got him to use it to >> learn programing. He has moved through most of the chapters by himself >> with little need for help. >> >> It teaches the fundamentals of programing OOP using the python language. >> I like python for several reasons. >> >> 1. It is a high level language - no need for compiling to run your >> programs. >> >> 2. Its syntax is simple and straight forward. >> 3. It is used in both web development as a server side language and is >> common in Linux and used in system administration. >> 4. It is used by Google in their Google Apps. >> >> Good luck >> On Aug 20, 2012 8:22 AM, "keith smith" wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I'm not sure what being a skilled JavaScript programmer really means, >>> however there are lots of challenges. Maybe that is why there is a >>> "shortage", if there really is one. Maybe you can achieve everything you >>> need to with jQuery or another such library. You will need to know HTML, >>> how the DOM works, and CSS. At that point if you learn PHP or some other >>> server side programming language you would have a complete marketable skill >>> set. Of course basic Apache and MySql skills would come in handy also. >>> None of these skills live in a vacuum. >>> >>> Being a JavaScript expert would be pretty neat since JavaScript runs in >>> the browser. I'd do some research on demand before jumping in. >>> >>> If I were just getting started I'd learn how to program a smart device >>> running Android. >>> >>> http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html >>> >>> Another thing you might consider. It is very hard to break into >>> programming in Corporate America. Learning how to program smart devises >>> might help you do freelance work. That might be where you really find the >>> demand. >>> >>> Another thing. Having several people give you advice on a tech list is >>> just that. The bottom line is you have to make it work. The buck stops >>> with you. I'd do lots of research and try out the different languages >>> before investing lots of time and effort. Also develop a business plan. >>> Even if you plan to work W2, I suggest a business plan so you can see how >>> that might work. You are a business even if you work W2. >>> >>> The first questions I'd ask myself is : >>> >>> 1) what are you deeply passionate about >>> 2) what were you genetically encoded to do >>> 3) will, whatever this is, drive you economic engine? >>> >>> Having a desire to be a programmer does not mean one should become a >>> programmer. You may have been designed to do something else. Also >>> programming skills come in handy in other fields. For instance if you were >>> in a financial analyst position you might be more productive if you were >>> able to pull raw data from a database, and create reports, maybe in spread >>> sheet format, that you and your group might be able to use in the >>> performance of your duties. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> Keith Smith >>> >>> --- On *Sun, 8/19/12, Michael Havens * wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Michael Havens >>> Subject: Re: programming >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 10:51 PM >>> >>> Well, I am going to take Alan and Joseph;s suggestion and learn >>> JavaScript. Look at that! Codeacademy didn't give me a choice as to which >>> language I wanted to learn but rather started me right off with JS! Thank >>> you so much for responding to me guys. >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, keith smith >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> Keith Smith d Joseph; >>> --- On *Sun, 8/19/12, Alan Dayley >>> >* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Alan Dayley >>> > >>> Subject: Re: programming >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> > >>> Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 3:30 PM >>> >>> >>> Most places I visit use web-based applications more and more often. And, >>> in such places, JavaScript developers seem to be in short supply. >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Michael Havens > >>> wrote: >>> >>> thank you so much for your help. What would you suggest as a marketable >>> language for me to learn? >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Alan Dayley >>> > wrote: >>> >>> http://codeacademy.com has free classes for much of the basics in >>> several languages. They just added Python. Look to see if that fits >>> your learning goals. >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Michael Havens > >>> wrote: >>> >>> > I was wondering..... how do you find the free kindle books and I was >>> hoping to find a book that would teach programming from the ground up with >>> exercises and stuff like that. Free is about all I can afford with two kids >>> and being on disability and all the crap that is going on in my life! WHat >>> is a good language to start learning? I remember that a friend of mine who >>> went to Devry in 91 the first language he learned was Pascal. Is that a >>> good language to start with or should I rather start with something more >>> useful? Like maybe Java or Javascript or would you recommend something >>> else? This is going to be completely a home study thing. I do have a Python >>> book for python2.1 by Deitel, Liperi, and Weidermann (copywrite 02). I >>> think I will work out of that unless you think it is too old. Please don't >>> ask what I want to do with whatever I learn because right now I don't know >>> what the possibilities of learning a language (be it Python, DHTML, or >>> whatever). You know what, I also >>> have a DHTML book (1997) anda java book ( 96) that are really >>> old. Do you think I should use them? Yeah, I'm thinking HTML and Java are >>> more practical. I can offer to program things for people. 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