the only thing I see wrong with PLUG (if you want growth) is that they
don't advertise. But then again, aren't there always new-comers at
installfests?
:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:29 PM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:

> Am 07. May, 2013 schwätzte Lisa Kachold so:
>
> moin moin Lisa,
>
>  A "steering committee" is clearly not a group of officers, with a mission,
>> term, and empowered to meet various roles in the community, therefore, the
>>
>
> Why is it not? In the case of PLUG, it is essentially a group of officers
> with a mission and empowered to meet various roles in the community.
>
> In any case, it's the volunteers who do things that decide the direction
> for PLUG.
>
>  loose, possibly anarchic PLUG control and growth never evolve.   Did the
>> PLUG ever obtain non-profit status riding under another 501-3C?  Why not?
>>
>
> Running a 501(c)3 requires follow-through. That's something we haven't
> accomplished any of the times we've worked to start one. In any case, it's
> orthogonal to what PLUG needs. It's a red herring.
>
>  Committee".  Can you tell me who are the members of the Steering
>> Committee,
>> and what they do or just who decides who is on that Committee (again Hans,
>> right)?
>>
>
> Lisa, for years you've been making these inaccurate claims and for years
> you've been corrected. Please stop. We get regular comments about having a
> behaved and useful list. False claims detract from that.
>
> PLUG is not run by me or any other single person. PLUG activities happen
> because volunteers put in the effort to make them happen. I am not
> involved in the Installfests or the security meetings. They happen because
> volunteers such as yourself make them happen.
>
> I also do not control the steering committee or any other aspect of
> PLUG. At least one person has made it on the steering committee against my
> vote. Majority winѕ.
>
>  I am not just complaining, I am comparing from an educated experienced
>> viewpoint, for the purposes of PLUG Change and GROWTH!
>>
>
> Fine, make comparisons. Explain what you've learned from experience.
> That's good and positive.
>
> Repeatedly making false claims is not helpful. Your false claims also
> distract and obscure anything positive you might be trying to accomplish.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
> --
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