I've spent the last week going through the kernel parameters for the 3.8 kernel and trying different options. So far this beast still locks up. I recall several months ago that this beast did not lock up when I tried Slackware. I'm figuring something happens while Kubuntu is booting up that doesn't happen when Slackware boots up. Does anyone know what that might be? I just bought a Dell inspiron 350 yesterday. I'm thinking of reinfecting this thing with windows and using it only when I need the extra processor power. However I really don't want to do that. I will be ever so thankful if anyone has an answer. Thanks. Derek -- "I get my copy of the daily paper, look at the obituaries page, and if I’m not there, I carry on as usual." Patrick Moore