no sweat, glad we nailed it down. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > then mkfs -t vfat then dosfslabel > > thanks for your help.... couldn't of done it w/o you! > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > >> distro is Mint14. I tried it in a Mint12 and mX14 (if you have old >> hardware mX14 is the operating system for you) with the same problem. fixed >> it! I unplugged all the other USB drives then made guesses about what the >> USB port was named (/dev/sdd1, /dev/sdc1... etc) >> >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> >> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Mike Ballon wrote: >> >>> Sounds like something went wrong with the part or file system setup. Try >>> it in another computer if you have one, if not just try setting up the usb >>> again. >>> >>> What distro btw? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>> >>>> hmmmmm... I just noticed. When I plug the drive in an icon appears in >>>> caja representing the drive if it is in the 'computer' mode. When I open >>>> the icon an info window appears stating that the computer can't mount the >>>> file. >>>> >>>> Is the drive dead or just in a coma awaiting someone to awaken it with >>>> a kiss? >>>> >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>>> >>>>> i'm not sure how old it is. >>>>> >>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ blkid >>>>>> /dev/sda1: UUID="cc83628a-2b28-40b4-8f02-c8a818ef55e9" TYPE="ext4" >>>>>> /dev/sda5: UUID="31eb4a2e-cf07-47d8-9f0a-2b12795b32fc" TYPE="swap" >>>>>> /dev/sda6: UUID="0653ee3e-f753-42a3-a6b6-dc2948cb8859" TYPE="ext4" >>>>>> /dev/sda7: LABEL="entertainment" >>>>>> UUID="9be45b98-d619-4a31-a951-5dd63fab9775" TYPE="ext4" >>>>>> /dev/sda8: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="F3E7-6D4B" TYPE="vfat" >>>>>> /dev/sda9: LABEL="backtrack" >>>>>> UUID="b75029ca-b18f-4310-8800-916ef23ea3cf" TYPE="ext4" >>>>>> ***** >>>>>> Nope, it doesn't see it. That is the second thumb drive that died >>>>>> this year. the first one was only a few months old whereas this one is a >>>>>> few years old. Is there any way to tell how old it is? >>>>>> >>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 4:54 PM, James Dugger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Try >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $ blkid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If Linux is seeing the drive as a device it should return a UUID and >>>>>>> a device assignment for it. >>>>>>> On May 6, 2014 2:46 PM, "Michael Havens" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> unplugging it was the first thing I tried. Then I tried to fix it >>>>>>>> with a reboot (that fixed things for me before when dealing with things. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ /etc/init.d/autofs status >>>>>>>>> bash: /etc/init.d/autofs: No such file or directory >>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ >>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ ps |grep automount >>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Mike Ballon < >>>>>>>>> mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> unplug/plug, it should automount, if not check: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> $ /etc/init.d/autofs status >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> automount (pid 1442) is running... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it isn't automounting. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Michael Havens < >>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> got it all to work.... even changed the label name. What messed >>>>>>>>>>>> me up was: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) -- again maybe you don't >>>>>>>>>>>> need the one >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't understand at first that was part of the 'n' command. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk >>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): o >>>>>>>>>>>> Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0x3e8c35b3. >>>>>>>>>>>> Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write >>>>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>>>> After that, of course, the previous content won't be >>>>>>>>>>>> recoverable. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be >>>>>>>>>>>> corrected by w(rite) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): n >>>>>>>>>>>> Partition type: >>>>>>>>>>>> p primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free) >>>>>>>>>>>> e extended >>>>>>>>>>>> Select (default p): p >>>>>>>>>>>> Partition number (1-4, default 1): >>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 1 >>>>>>>>>>>> First sector (2048-3913663, default 2048): >>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 2048 >>>>>>>>>>>> Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-3913663, default >>>>>>>>>>>> 3913663): >>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 3913663 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): t >>>>>>>>>>>> Selected partition 1 >>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): ntfs >>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): >>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): l >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 0 Empty 24 NEC DOS 81 Minix / old Lin bf >>>>>>>>>>>> Solaris >>>>>>>>>>>> 1 FAT12 27 Hidden NTFS Win 82 Linux swap / So c1 >>>>>>>>>>>> DRDOS/sec (FAT- >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 XENIX root 39 Plan 9 83 Linux c4 >>>>>>>>>>>> DRDOS/sec (FAT- >>>>>>>>>>>> 3 XENIX usr 3c PartitionMagic 84 OS/2 hidden C: c6 >>>>>>>>>>>> DRDOS/sec (FAT- >>>>>>>>>>>> 4 FAT16 <32M 40 Venix 80286 85 Linux extended c7 >>>>>>>>>>>> Syrinx >>>>>>>>>>>> 5 Extended 41 PPC PReP Boot 86 NTFS volume set da >>>>>>>>>>>> Non-FS data >>>>>>>>>>>> 6 FAT16 42 SFS 87 NTFS volume set db >>>>>>>>>>>> CP/M / CTOS / . >>>>>>>>>>>> 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT 4d QNX4.x 88 Linux plaintext de >>>>>>>>>>>> Dell Utility >>>>>>>>>>>> 8 AIX 4e QNX4.x 2nd part 8e Linux LVM df >>>>>>>>>>>> BootIt >>>>>>>>>>>> 9 AIX bootable 4f QNX4.x 3rd part 93 Amoeba e1 >>>>>>>>>>>> DOS access >>>>>>>>>>>> a OS/2 Boot Manag 50 OnTrack DM 94 Amoeba BBT e3 >>>>>>>>>>>> DOS R/O >>>>>>>>>>>> b W95 FAT32 51 OnTrack DM6 Aux 9f BSD/OS e4 >>>>>>>>>>>> SpeedStor >>>>>>>>>>>> c W95 FAT32 (LBA) 52 CP/M a0 IBM Thinkpad hi eb >>>>>>>>>>>> BeOS fs >>>>>>>>>>>> e W95 FAT16 (LBA) 53 OnTrack DM6 Aux a5 FreeBSD ee >>>>>>>>>>>> GPT >>>>>>>>>>>> f W95 Ext'd (LBA) 54 OnTrackDM6 a6 OpenBSD ef >>>>>>>>>>>> EFI (FAT-12/16/ >>>>>>>>>>>> 10 OPUS 55 EZ-Drive a7 NeXTSTEP f0 >>>>>>>>>>>> Linux/PA-RISC b >>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Hidden FAT12 56 Golden Bow a8 Darwin UFS f1 >>>>>>>>>>>> SpeedStor >>>>>>>>>>>> 12 Compaq diagnost 5c Priam Edisk a9 NetBSD f4 >>>>>>>>>>>> SpeedStor >>>>>>>>>>>> 14 Hidden FAT16 <3 61 SpeedStor ab Darwin boot f2 >>>>>>>>>>>> DOS secondary >>>>>>>>>>>> 16 Hidden FAT16 63 GNU HURD or Sys af HFS / HFS+ fb >>>>>>>>>>>> VMware VMFS >>>>>>>>>>>> 17 Hidden HPFS/NTF 64 Novell Netware b7 BSDI fs fc >>>>>>>>>>>> VMware VMKCORE >>>>>>>>>>>> 18 AST SmartSleep 65 Novell Netware b8 BSDI swap fd >>>>>>>>>>>> Linux raid auto >>>>>>>>>>>> 1b Hidden W95 FAT3 70 DiskSecure Mult bb Boot Wizard hid fe >>>>>>>>>>>> LANstep >>>>>>>>>>>> 1c Hidden W95 FAT3 75 PC/IX be Solaris boot ff >>>>>>>>>>>> BBT >>>>>>>>>>>> 1e Hidden W95 FAT1 80 Old Minix >>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): 86 >>>>>>>>>>>> Changed system type of partition 1 to 86 (NTFS volume set) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): b >>>>>>>>>>>> There is no *BSD partition on /dev/sdd. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): p >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Disk /dev/sdd: 2003 MB, 2003795968 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>> 11 heads, 4 sectors/track, 88946 cylinders, total 3913664 >>>>>>>>>>>> sectors >>>>>>>>>>>> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>> Disk identifier: 0x3e8c35b3 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 2048 3913663 1955808 86 NTFS >>>>>>>>>>>> volume set >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): w >>>>>>>>>>>> The partition table has been altered! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. >>>>>>>>>>>> Syncing disks. >>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Mike Ballon < >>>>>>>>>>>> mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> After the 1 is t, 1 might have been selected for you by >>>>>>>>>>>>> default. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> start over... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> $> fdisk /dev/sdd >>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > o (create new table) >>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > n (create part, 1 would be the default, maybe you >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't need the 1) >>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) -- again maybe you don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> need the one >>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > t (select fs type) >>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > b (selects fat for fs) >>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > p (print the table) >>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > w (write the changes) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't make me do a video I don't have time ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Michael Havens < >>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay.... I think I really screwed things up. YOu said: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> fdisk /dev/sdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > o >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > n >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > t >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > b >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > w >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > p >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***The above didn't look like that. There was no '$>' >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I figured your computer was just configured differently >>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I carried on! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): o >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xf66cb38c. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> After that, of course, the previous content won't be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recoverable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrected by w(rite) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): n >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition type: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> p primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e extended >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Select (default p): p >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition number (1-4, default 1): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> First sector (2048-3913663, default 2048): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 2048 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-3913663, default >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3913663): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 3913663 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1: unknown command >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command action >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a toggle a bootable flag >>>>>>>>>>>>>> b edit bsd disklabel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> c toggle the dos compatibility flag >>>>>>>>>>>>>> d delete a partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>> l list known partition types >>>>>>>>>>>>>> m print this menu >>>>>>>>>>>>>> n add a new partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>> o create a new empty DOS partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>> p print the partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>> q quit without saving changes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> s create a new empty Sun disklabel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> t change a partition's system id >>>>>>>>>>>>>> u change display/entry units >>>>>>>>>>>>>> v verify the partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>> w write table to disk and exit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> x extra functionality (experts only) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): t >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selected partition 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): w >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): ^[^[ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): ^Cbmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo fdisk /dev/sdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): o >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xbdd16f92. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> After that, of course, the previous content won't be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recoverable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrected by w(rite) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): n >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition type: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> p primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e extended >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Select (default p): b >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Invalid partition type `b' >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): n >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition type: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> p primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e extended >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Select (default p): p >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition number (1-4, default 1): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> First sector (2048-3913663, default 2048): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 2048 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-3913663, default >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3913663): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 3913663 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): b >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no *BSD partition on /dev/sdd. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): w >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The partition table has been altered! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syncing disks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): p >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk /dev/sdd: 2003 MB, 2003795968 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 heads, 4 sectors/track, 88946 cylinders, total 3913664 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sectors >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk identifier: 0xbdd16f92 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 2048 3913663 1955808 83 Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): ^[[B^[[A^[ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [: unknown command >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command action >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a toggle a bootable flag >>>>>>>>>>>>>> b edit bsd disklabel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> c toggle the dos compatibility flag >>>>>>>>>>>>>> d delete a partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>> l list known partition types >>>>>>>>>>>>>> m print this menu >>>>>>>>>>>>>> n add a new partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>> o create a new empty DOS partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>> p print the partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>> q quit without saving changes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> s create a new empty Sun disklabel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> t change a partition's system id >>>>>>>>>>>>>> u change display/entry units >>>>>>>>>>>>>> v verify the partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>> w write table to disk and exit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> x extra functionality (experts only) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): q >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk /dev/sdd1: 2001 MB, 2001731584 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 62 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1017 cylinders, total 3909632 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sectors >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk identifier: 0x20ac7dda >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This doesn't look like a partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably you selected the wrong device. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id >>>>>>>>>>>>>> System >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1p1 ? 3224498923 3657370039 216435558+ 7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> HPFS/NTFS/exFAT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1p2 ? 3272020941 930513678 976730017 16 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hidden FAT16 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1p3 ? 0 0 0 6f >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unknown >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1p4 50200576 974536369 462167897 0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Empty >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition table entries are not in disk order >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****Now when I plug the USB drive in and it automounts >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing new appears in the file manager. SO I ran another program to see >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what it says: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo sfdisk >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checking that no-one is using this disk right now ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk /dev/sdd: 1018 cylinders, 62 heads, 62 sectors/track >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Old situation: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning: The partition table looks like it was made >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for C/H/S=*/11/4 (instead of 1018/62/62). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For this listing I'll assume that geometry. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Units = cylinders of 22528 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> counting from 0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 46+ 88946- 88901- 1955808 83 Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>> start: (c,h,s) expected (46,6,1) found (1,78,9) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,10,4) found (34,10,4) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd2 0 - 0 0 0 Empty >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd3 0 - 0 0 0 Empty >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd4 0 - 0 0 0 Empty >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Input in the following format; absent fields get a default >>>>>>>>>>>>>> value. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually you only need to specify and (and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps ). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 :? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trailing junk after number >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Mike Ballon < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First I was wrong to say that /dev/sdd1 would not exist it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you simply unmounted it. I believe it can vary between a physical system >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a VM. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- returns the memory stick i just plugged in and assigns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device /dev/sdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> dmesg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 452.300827] scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access Kingston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DataTraveler 2.0 PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 452.302226] sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 452.316528] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 15240576 512-byte logical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blocks: (7.80 GB/7.26 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- automount presents the stick to me because it has a file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> mount | grep sdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdb1 on /media/UNTITLED type vfat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- fdisk returns the partition info >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> fdisk -l /dev/sdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdb1 2 15240575 7620287 b W95 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FAT32 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- use fdisk to delete the partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> fdisk /dev/sdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > d >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > w >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > p >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- use fdisk to create the partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> fdisk /dev/sdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > n >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > b >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > w >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > p >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdb1 2048 15240575 7619264 b W95 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FAT32 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- make the file system if needed, I say if needed because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since the partition is exactly the same and the fs is the same, automount >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mounted the stick for me automagically >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> umount /dev/sdb1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> mount /dev/sdb /mnt/foobar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> touch /mnt/foobar/test.txt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> ls /mnt/fobar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test.txt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- oops forgot the renaming of volume, I'm on debian so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> apt-get install mtools >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Setting up mtools (4.0.17-1) ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> mlabel -i /dev/sdb1 ::usb_stick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again... gparted is your friend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Mike Ballon < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you unmounted then /dev/sdd1 would no longer be there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give me a few mins and I'll spin up a VM (I'm on a Mac) and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll run through all the steps for you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Havens < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bummer.... new drive: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mount >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 on /media/bmike1/OpenELEC type vfat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo mkfs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -t vfat /dev/sdd1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1: No such file or directory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo mkfs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -t vfat /dev/sdd1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1: No such file or directory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e2label /dev/sdd1 Pny2G >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e2label: No such file or directory while trying to open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what am I doing wrong? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Michael Havens < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that wouldn't change a vfat system but it inspired the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct search terms and I found 'dosfslabel'. Thanks for the help, man:D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, you're right Mike. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive#FAT16_and_FAT32 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Havens writes: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > same thing: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > sudo e2label /dev/sdd1 Goodwill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while trying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > /dev/sdd1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could it be because it is a vfat file system? (while I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love linux I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > like to have the ability for my flash drives to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used on common >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > computers) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Mike Ballon < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mike.ballon@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > It's I file system label so yes, you'll need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format. If there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > is no partition will have to create a partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before you can do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > a mkfs gparted should do all that for you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On May 5, 2014 7:47 PM, "Michael Havens" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks Mike. Does this error mean I need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format the drive? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > sudo e2label /dev/sdc1 Goodwill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > /dev/sdc1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > This is what 'mount' shows sdc1 to be: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > /dev/sdc1 on /media/bmike1/OpenELEC type vfat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > and to format this and apply the label it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc1;e2label /dev/sdc1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goodwill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Mike Ballon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > e2label >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Havens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I have a few flash drives. When I plug >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them in to my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > computer a name referring to that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flash drive appears >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > in the file manager. I have two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions: the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > is how do I change that name? 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