You might be able to get it back working, but I’d recommend you pitch it and get a new one to replace it. For the full background on why, go read my email a while back where I explain MLC and SLC and SSDs and stuff, oh my. The short version, though, is – given the short R/W lifespan of MLC-based storage (which your flash drive is), getting it to work again (IF the failure reason is flash wearing out) is only putting off, for a very short time, the moment when the drive totally fails in a totally unsalvageable way. (Can you say “Impending data loss”? ;-) That being said, rumor has it that leaving your flash drive in the car during the summer (can you say 150 degrees in the car? But do NOT leave it in direct sun – a bit too hot) MAY help make the flash work again for a while. Now, a direct answer: ‘no such file or directory’, in this case, means that /dev/sdc1 (for example) does not exist. This is usually because Linux has not detected a partition table on the device which specifies a partition. ‘no medium found’ means that the device is responding in a way that indicates to the OS that there is no actual media on which to store, or from which to retrieve, anything. Kind of like plugging in a USB CD or DVD drive but not putting a CD or DVD in it. From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Michael Havens Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:16 PM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: change name I was wondering, I still have that flash drive that died and wanted to see if I could resrrect it: Well, to save you from having to wade trough text for 3 of the 8 commands the response was 'no medium found' as opposed to 'no such file or directory'.Then I thought perhaps I needed to partition it; for /dev/sdb-/dev/sdd the response was 'no medium found' and then /dev/sde said 'no such file or directory'. Why did the returns give me to different responses? sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc1 mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) /dev/sdc1: No such file or directory sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdd1 mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) /dev/sdd1: No such file or directory sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sde1 mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) /dev/sde1: No such file or directory sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1 mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) /dev/sdb1: No such file or directory sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) /dev/sdb: No medium found sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) /dev/sdc: No medium found sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdd mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) /dev/sdd: No medium found sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sde mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) /dev/sde: No such file or directory sudo fdisk /dev/sdd fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdd: No medium found sudo fdisk /dev/sdc fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdc: No medium found sudo fdisk /dev/sdb fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdb: No medium found sudo fdisk /dev/sde fdisk: unable to open /dev/sde: No such file or directory :-)~MIKE~(-: On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Mike Ballon wrote: no sweat, glad we nailed it down. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Michael Havens wrote: then mkfs -t vfat then dosfslabel thanks for your help.... couldn't of done it w/o you! :-)~MIKE~(-: On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Michael Havens wrote: distro is Mint14. I tried it in a Mint12 and mX14 (if you have old hardware mX14 is the operating system for you) with the same problem. fixed it! I unplugged all the other USB drives then made guesses about what the USB port was named (/dev/sdd1, /dev/sdc1... etc) :-)~MIKE~(-: On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Mike Ballon wrote: Sounds like something went wrong with the part or file system setup. Try it in another computer if you have one, if not just try setting up the usb again. What distro btw? On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Michael Havens wrote: hmmmmm... I just noticed. When I plug the drive in an icon appears in caja representing the drive if it is in the 'computer' mode. When I open the icon an info window appears stating that the computer can't mount the file. Is the drive dead or just in a coma awaiting someone to awaken it with a kiss? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Michael Havens wrote: i'm not sure how old it is. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Michael Havens wrote: bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ blkid /dev/sda1: UUID="cc83628a-2b28-40b4-8f02-c8a818ef55e9" TYPE="ext4" /dev/sda5: UUID="31eb4a2e-cf07-47d8-9f0a-2b12795b32fc" TYPE="swap" /dev/sda6: UUID="0653ee3e-f753-42a3-a6b6-dc2948cb8859" TYPE="ext4" /dev/sda7: LABEL="entertainment" UUID="9be45b98-d619-4a31-a951-5dd63fab9775" TYPE="ext4" /dev/sda8: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="F3E7-6D4B" TYPE="vfat" /dev/sda9: LABEL="backtrack" UUID="b75029ca-b18f-4310-8800-916ef23ea3cf" TYPE="ext4" ***** Nope, it doesn't see it. That is the second thumb drive that died this year. the first one was only a few months old whereas this one is a few years old. Is there any way to tell how old it is? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 4:54 PM, James Dugger wrote: Try $ blkid If Linux is seeing the drive as a device it should return a UUID and a device assignment for it. On May 6, 2014 2:46 PM, "Michael Havens" wrote: unplugging it was the first thing I tried. Then I tried to fix it with a reboot (that fixed things for me before when dealing with things. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Michael Havens wrote: bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ /etc/init.d/autofs status bash: /etc/init.d/autofs: No such file or directory bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ ps |grep automount bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Mike Ballon wrote: unplug/plug, it should automount, if not check: $ /etc/init.d/autofs status automount (pid 1442) is running... On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Michael Havens wrote: it isn't automounting. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Michael Havens wrote: got it all to work.... even changed the label name. What messed me up was: $> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) -- again maybe you don't need the one I didn't understand at first that was part of the 'n' command. bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk /dev/sdd Command (m for help): o Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0x3e8c35b3. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Command (m for help): n Partition type: p primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free) e extended Select (default p): p Partition number (1-4, default 1): Using default value 1 First sector (2048-3913663, default 2048): Using default value 2048 Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-3913663, default 3913663): Using default value 3913663 Command (m for help): t Selected partition 1 Hex code (type L to list codes): ntfs Hex code (type L to list codes): Hex code (type L to list codes): l 0 Empty 24 NEC DOS 81 Minix / old Lin bf Solaris 1 FAT12 27 Hidden NTFS Win 82 Linux swap / So c1 DRDOS/sec (FAT- 2 XENIX root 39 Plan 9 83 Linux c4 DRDOS/sec (FAT- 3 XENIX usr 3c PartitionMagic 84 OS/2 hidden C: c6 DRDOS/sec (FAT- 4 FAT16 <32M 40 Venix 80286 85 Linux extended c7 Syrinx 5 Extended 41 PPC PReP Boot 86 NTFS volume set da Non-FS data 6 FAT16 42 SFS 87 NTFS volume set db CP/M / CTOS / . 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT 4d QNX4.x 88 Linux plaintext de Dell Utility 8 AIX 4e QNX4.x 2nd part 8e Linux LVM df BootIt 9 AIX bootable 4f QNX4.x 3rd part 93 Amoeba e1 DOS access a OS/2 Boot Manag 50 OnTrack DM 94 Amoeba BBT e3 DOS R/O b W95 FAT32 51 OnTrack DM6 Aux 9f BSD/OS e4 SpeedStor c W95 FAT32 (LBA) 52 CP/M a0 IBM Thinkpad hi eb BeOS fs e W95 FAT16 (LBA) 53 OnTrack DM6 Aux a5 FreeBSD ee GPT f W95 Ext'd (LBA) 54 OnTrackDM6 a6 OpenBSD ef EFI (FAT-12/16/ 10 OPUS 55 EZ-Drive a7 NeXTSTEP f0 Linux/PA-RISC b 11 Hidden FAT12 56 Golden Bow a8 Darwin UFS f1 SpeedStor 12 Compaq diagnost 5c Priam Edisk a9 NetBSD f4 SpeedStor 14 Hidden FAT16 <3 61 SpeedStor ab Darwin boot f2 DOS secondary 16 Hidden FAT16 63 GNU HURD or Sys af HFS / HFS+ fb VMware VMFS 17 Hidden HPFS/NTF 64 Novell Netware b7 BSDI fs fc VMware VMKCORE 18 AST SmartSleep 65 Novell Netware b8 BSDI swap fd Linux raid auto 1b Hidden W95 FAT3 70 DiskSecure Mult bb Boot Wizard hid fe LANstep 1c Hidden W95 FAT3 75 PC/IX be Solaris boot ff BBT 1e Hidden W95 FAT1 80 Old Minix Hex code (type L to list codes): 86 Changed system type of partition 1 to 86 (NTFS volume set) Command (m for help): b There is no *BSD partition on /dev/sdd. Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sdd: 2003 MB, 2003795968 bytes 11 heads, 4 sectors/track, 88946 cylinders, total 3913664 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x3e8c35b3 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1 2048 3913663 1955808 86 NTFS volume set Command (m for help): w The partition table has been altered! Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. Syncing disks. bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Mike Ballon wrote: After the 1 is t, 1 might have been selected for you by default. start over... $> fdisk /dev/sdd $> Command > o (create new table) $> Command > n (create part, 1 would be the default, maybe you don't need the 1) $> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) -- again maybe you don't need the one $> Command > t (select fs type) $> Command > b (selects fat for fs) $> Command > p (print the table) $> Command > w (write the changes) don't make me do a video I don't have time ;) On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Michael Havens wrote: Okay.... I think I really screwed things up. YOu said: $> fdisk /dev/sdb $> Command > o $> Command > n $> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) $> Command > t $> Command > b $> Command > w $> Command > p ***The above didn't look like that. There was no '$>' But I figured your computer was just configured differently so I carried on! bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk /dev/sdd Command (m for help): o Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xf66cb38c. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Command (m for help): n Partition type: p primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free) e extended Select (default p): p Partition number (1-4, default 1): Using default value 1 First sector (2048-3913663, default 2048): Using default value 2048 Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-3913663, default 3913663): Using default value 3913663 Command (m for help): 1 1: unknown command Command action a toggle a bootable flag b edit bsd disklabel c toggle the dos compatibility flag d delete a partition l list known partition types m print this menu n add a new partition o create a new empty DOS partition table p print the partition table q quit without saving changes s create a new empty Sun disklabel t change a partition's system id u change display/entry units v verify the partition table w write table to disk and exit x extra functionality (experts only) Command (m for help): t Selected partition 1 Hex code (type L to list codes): Hex code (type L to list codes): w Hex code (type L to list codes): ^[^[ Hex code (type L to list codes): Hex code (type L to list codes): ^Cbmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk /dev/sdd Command (m for help): o Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xbdd16f92. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Command (m for help): n Partition type: p primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free) e extended Select (default p): b Invalid partition type `b' Command (m for help): n Partition type: p primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free) e extended Select (default p): p Partition number (1-4, default 1): Using default value 1 First sector (2048-3913663, default 2048): Using default value 2048 Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-3913663, default 3913663): Using default value 3913663 Command (m for help): b There is no *BSD partition on /dev/sdd. Command (m for help): w The partition table has been altered! Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. Syncing disks. bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk /dev/sdd Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sdd: 2003 MB, 2003795968 bytes 11 heads, 4 sectors/track, 88946 cylinders, total 3913664 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xbdd16f92 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1 2048 3913663 1955808 83 Linux Command (m for help): ^[[B^[[A^[ [: unknown command Command action a toggle a bootable flag b edit bsd disklabel c toggle the dos compatibility flag d delete a partition l list known partition types m print this menu n add a new partition o create a new empty DOS partition table p print the partition table q quit without saving changes s create a new empty Sun disklabel t change a partition's system id u change display/entry units v verify the partition table w write table to disk and exit x extra functionality (experts only) Command (m for help): q sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd1 Disk /dev/sdd1: 2001 MB, 2001731584 bytes 62 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1017 cylinders, total 3909632 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x20ac7dda This doesn't look like a partition table Probably you selected the wrong device. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1p1 ? 3224498923 3657370039 216435558+ 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sdd1p2 ? 3272020941 930513678 976730017 16 Hidden FAT16 /dev/sdd1p3 ? 0 0 0 6f Unknown /dev/sdd1p4 50200576 974536369 462167897 0 Empty Partition table entries are not in disk order ****Now when I plug the USB drive in and it automounts nothing new appears in the file manager. SO I ran another program to see what it says: bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo sfdisk /dev/sdd Checking that no-one is using this disk right now ... OK Disk /dev/sdd: 1018 cylinders, 62 heads, 62 sectors/track Old situation: Warning: The partition table looks like it was made for C/H/S=*/11/4 (instead of 1018/62/62). For this listing I'll assume that geometry. Units = cylinders of 22528 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System /dev/sdd1 46+ 88946- 88901- 1955808 83 Linux start: (c,h,s) expected (46,6,1) found (1,78,9) end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,10,4) found (34,10,4) /dev/sdd2 0 - 0 0 0 Empty /dev/sdd3 0 - 0 0 0 Empty /dev/sdd4 0 - 0 0 0 Empty Input in the following format; absent fields get a default value. Usually you only need to specify and (and perhaps ). /dev/sdd1 :? trailing junk after number /dev/sdd1 : :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Mike Ballon wrote: First I was wrong to say that /dev/sdd1 would not exist it you simply unmounted it. I believe it can vary between a physical system and a VM. -- returns the memory stick i just plugged in and assigns device /dev/sdb $> dmesg [ 452.300827] scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 4 [ 452.302226] sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 [ 452.316528] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 15240576 512-byte logical blocks: (7.80 GB/7.26 -- automount presents the stick to me because it has a file system $> mount | grep sdb /dev/sdb1 on /media/UNTITLED type vfat -- fdisk returns the partition info $> fdisk -l /dev/sdb Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 2 15240575 7620287 b W95 FAT32 -- use fdisk to delete the partition $> fdisk /dev/sdb $> Command > d $> Command > w $> Command > p Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System -- use fdisk to create the partition $> fdisk /dev/sdb $> Command > o $> Command > n $> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) $> Command > t $> Command > b $> Command > w $> Command > p Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 2048 15240575 7619264 b W95 FAT32 -- make the file system if needed, I say if needed because since the partition is exactly the same and the fs is the same, automount mounted the stick for me automagically $> umount /dev/sdb1 $> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1 $> mount /dev/sdb /mnt/foobar $> touch /mnt/foobar/test.txt $> ls /mnt/fobar test.txt -- oops forgot the renaming of volume, I'm on debian so $> apt-get install mtools Setting up mtools (4.0.17-1) ... $> mlabel -i /dev/sdb1 ::usb_stick again... gparted is your friend On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Mike Ballon wrote: if you unmounted then /dev/sdd1 would no longer be there. Give me a few mins and I'll spin up a VM (I'm on a Mac) and I'll run through all the steps for you. On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Havens wrote: bummer.... new drive: mount ... /dev/sdd1 on /media/bmike1/OpenELEC type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2) bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdd1 mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) /dev/sdd1: No such file or directory bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdd1 mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) /dev/sdd1: No such file or directory bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo e2label /dev/sdd1 Pny2G e2label: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdd1 Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. what am I doing wrong? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Michael Havens wrote: that wouldn't change a vfat system but it inspired the correct search terms and I found 'dosfslabel'. Thanks for the help, man:D :-)~MIKE~(-: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: Yeah, you're right Mike. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive#FAT16_and_FAT32 Michael Havens writes: > same thing: > > sudo e2label /dev/sdd1 Goodwill > e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open > /dev/sdd1 > Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. > > could it be because it is a vfat file system? (while I love linux I > like to have the ability for my flash drives to be used on common > computers) > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Mike Ballon > wrote: > > It's I file system label so yes, you'll need to format. If there > is no partition will have to create a partition before you can do > a mkfs gparted should do all that for you > > > > On May 5, 2014 7:47 PM, "Michael Havens" wrote: > > > Thanks Mike. Does this error mean I need to format the drive? > > > > sudo e2label /dev/sdc1 Goodwill > e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open > /dev/sdc1 > Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. > > > This is what 'mount' shows sdc1 to be: > > > > /dev/sdc1 on /media/bmike1/OpenELEC type vfat > (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1, > showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2) > > > and to format this and apply the label it would be: > > mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc1;e2label /dev/sdc1 Goodwill > > > > > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Mike Ballon > wrote: > > > e2label > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Michael Havens > wrote: > > > > I have a few flash drives. When I plug them in to my > computer a name referring to that flash drive appears > in the file manager. I have two questions: the first > is how do I change that name? 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