Do your best to avoid a mac with the t2 security chip. That basically
renders the SSD useless.

I would also suggest you run refind for your boot. It will make life
easier for you to swap back and forth for firmware updates.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 5:36 PM Matt Graham <mhgraham@crow202.org> wrote:

> On 2019-11-21 16:34, der.hans wrote:
> > Is it really, really easy to install and run debian and Ubuntu on
> > Apple
> > laptops nowdays? Everything works? Networking, sound, hibernate, etc.?
>
> It was slightly annoying to run Gentoo on an older OS X machine.  Part
> of this was because it's Gentoo.  Part of this was because it was 2017
> and they've figured out a lot more stuff now.  I had no problems with
> wired networking, but wireless required some fooling around with kernel
> modules that weren't marked stable yet.  The whole experience was a lot
> like the Lenovo E595 install I did a few months back in that everything
> eventually worked, it just took more time than I would've liked.
> https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux says they are having trouble
> with sound on the really new machines, but lots of other stuff works at
> least partially.
>
> > Does Apple hardware also have UEFI and other misfeatures?
>
> Yes.  rEFInd worked reasonably well for me so long as you don't need to
> change your kernel boot parameters all the time.
>
> > Are there any decent Apple laptops that have AMD processors?
>
> Not AFAICT.
>
> > Can you add more RAM or are you stuck with whatever it came with
>
> I believe you're stuck with whatever it came with.  ICBW.
>
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