Craig White wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 15:17 -0700, Alan Dayley wrote:
>
>> I know several high quality people that either use Linux or want to
>> learn more about using Linux. They were on the cusp but all had a
>> similar complaint: They thought this email list had too much off topic
>> and "silly," to use one person's term, stuff in it.
>>
>> After the recent "screwed" threads, how in the world do I get them to
>> participate?
>>
>> Please, as a group, let's not do do that again. Ever.
>>
> ----
> sounds reasonable but doesn't fly...mail lists always have their
> off-topic dalliances and learning to cope, delete, respond or whatever
> is just part and parcel of the medium. Perhaps we need another round of
> top or bottom posting, html mail suitability or just go for one of the
> tried and true pointless discussions such as vi or emacs/gnome or
> kde/which distro is best just to satisfy the notion that it isn't always
> politics.
>
> Yes, it has useless stuff...in fact, I would point out that the OP of
> the 'We are screwed' thread has a noise to signal ratio of about 90%. I
> do not ask that he or anyone be removed from the list and support his
> right to post as much as anyone's because I too can filter or just
> delete his nonsense as I see fit.
>
> While I appreciate that on its face, there seems little to be served by
> having a political discussion on list, it is encouraging to see a
> diverse point of view by the list members and while I have a tough time
> finding respect for low quality, unsubstantiated opinions typically
> expressed by Mike Havens, I do enjoy vigorous discussions for those I do
> disagree and it does help all of us recognize that there are disparate
> opinions. This is not a one-off type of commentary from Mike Havens and
> I'm quite sure that many are aware of that.
>
> My own personal disappointment stems from the apparent lack of interest
> in topics such as the H1B visas, the release of the white space
> bandwidth by the FEC and end up getting swamped by traffic about Obama
> being a Socialist which is about as stupid as political discourse can
> get these days.
>
> The easy solution is that people who sign up for mail lists learn how to
> use their delete key or better yet, the combination of 'threads' and the
> delete key can just kill an entire thread in a single click.
>
> Craig
>
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