On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Vimal Shah <vimals@sokikom.com> wrote:

Will having dev and test as in-house servers run the risk of having a live server that is not ~100% identical? Keeping all environments virtual seems to be a sure fire (not to mention expensive) way to make sure that all environments are as close to identical as possible. Is this overkill?

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Bryan O'Neal <Bryan.ONeal@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:

If your really good you can work magic at $5 per instance per month.
But that requires some actual planning. But after that it does make
things easy to expand. Personally I would go for horizontal scaling
options from commodity providers. Maybe mix in some spare office
equipment for dev and test and you would be off to the races.
Ease of expansion and contraction combined with low cost is what you
gain from commodity commuting. Cloud is just a word. Don't get caught
up making things more web 2.0 and cloud-ish. Aim for solid horizontal
sailing at a low cost that will still provide solid HA.

On 4/21/11, Ted Gould <ted@gould.cx> wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 01:38 +0000, Ariel Gold wrote:
>> Private Cloud? Commodity hosting provider?
>>
>> So you're saying Amazon and Linode are public clouds, and recommending
>> he setup a private cloud for less than $100/mo? That means he's paying
>> and managing his own hardware and setting up an automated
>> virtualization system? And the $100/month would be for colocation and
>> bandwidth?
>
> Why, yes, yes I am :-)
>
> You can set up a private cloud with two machines and a few hours of work
> by installing UEC on them.
>
> http://www.ubuntu.com/business/server/cloud
>
> I'm sure other vendors have similar solutions, but that's the one I know
> (I work for Canonical). It's really pretty easy to do.
>
> I think that as we enter the "cloud era" business will be measured on
> their success of managing the balance between private and public clouds.
> Public clouds provide scalability but private clouds provide more
> predictability. And I think that predictability is key for development
> and QA. Of course, I'm one guy on a mailing list :-)
>
> So back to your numbers, a couple of decent servers for $1K each with a
> 2-3 year lifetime is less than $100/mo. Of course YMMV.
>
> --Ted
>
>

Any image can be identical to cloud or local systems using virtualization. It's simply a matter of experienced Linux administration supporting QA/DEV and Production servers.

As a basic part of disaster recovery every server once built, hardened and configured optimally needs to be imaged. Swap out of a waiting spare, reimaging would be trivial to ensure uptime SLA.

That image can be used in Vmware, Xen or Citrix Xenserver VPS, depending on your implementation and tools.

Next subject, of course would be disk SAN/NAS to manage large system file sharing and DR images.

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