if there is a shutoff point you did say disable it? On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Brien Dieterle wrote: > Well, you're on the right track. Try to isolate whether glmark alone can > crash it, or if you need stress as well. Then try opening up your case > and point a fan in there. > Also don't forget to check the BIOS for thermal management events that > might be causing the shutdown/reboot. > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael wrote: > >> never mind..... I ran glmark around 5 minutes and then stress. that >> crashed the machine! Not a nice reboot (like what it does with dt) but a >> power failure outage, >> >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael wrote: >> >>> and if glmark2 doesn't crash it run stress the same amount of time? >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Michael wrote: >>> >>>> how long do I let glmark2's pretty horse rotate? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Michael wrote: >>>> >>>>> okay >>>>> ` >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Brien Dieterle >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'd wait. If stress alone doesn't crash, run glmark2 by itself. If >>>>>> glmark2 doesn't crash, run them both at the same time. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> run this now or after stress completes? >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Brien Dieterle >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, not yet ;-). If it doesn't crash, you might need to stress >>>>>>>> the graphics card as well with one of these tools: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu-benchmarking-and-stress-testin >>>>>>>> g-in-linux/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So maybe kick off both stress and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> glmark2 --run-forever >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if it doesn't crash I'll start hounding the darktable forums. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just started..... lets see what happens >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Brien Dieterle >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Forget darktable for now. Did you run stress test for more than >>>>>>>>>>> 10 seconds? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This will run a stress test for 30 minutes: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 2 --timeout 1800s >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you can get it to crash with just this stress program, then >>>>>>>>>>> it has nothing to do with darktable >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have no sensors running and as for it panicing when warm >>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes it panics after I run dt 2 minutes after it had been shut down an >>>>>>>>>>>> hour and doesn't panic even though dt had run10 minutes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brien Dieterle < >>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Check your bios settings for hardware monitoring and >>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature limits. You may have it set with a maximum temperature so the >>>>>>>>>>>>> machine panics when it's just warm. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Try raising this number or disabling the feature entirely >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But first check your sensors by installing a temperature >>>>>>>>>>>>> monitoring program >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017 1:04 PM, "Michael" wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is sooo ify! I just ran it for like 10 minutes with no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> crashes whereas before I had just started the computer and ran dt for 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes and it crashed. Then I restarted and I had a repeat performance of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2 minute thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M --timeout 10s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] dispatching hogs: 8 cpu, 4 io, 2 vm, 0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] successful run completed in 10s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that was suppossed to tell me but there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am experiencing no slowness. It is like the days where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you had a power switch on the back of your computer... or it is like a hard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reboot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Stephen Partington < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cryptworks@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCL in darktable mainly impacts rendering. it should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no effect on on system or ram consumption unless you are experiencing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowness during render cycles. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know.... I'm having trouble running darktable. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems that after I start it it runs a few minutes and then reboots the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. Probably because I do not have a GPU (I don't think). Then I saw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this thread and thought that I'd give that a try. So it seems I can not run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chrome and darktable at the same time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'lspci' shows that my graphics card is : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 'lspci|grep gpu' returned an empty set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if I did that correctly) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I suppose the cheapest way to fix this is to get a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gpu.... correct? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Carruth, Rusty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my experience, it’s almost always Firefox taking all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of memory. 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Fiesta Blvd. Suite 101 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gilbert, Az. 85233 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@l >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ists.phxlinux.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Butash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:05 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: computer slow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I ever have that, it's usually because of something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a memory leak, or desktop graphic compositing is degrading over time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you reboot, see if you can ssh into it from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another computer and check htop (or just top all you have), see if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is consuming all your memory or cpu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop compositors are all shite from what I can tell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (including windoze), they're all just a varying degree of broken when you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push them, or just have a slow (or buggy) video card. Depending on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop environment of choice, try turning down graphics options, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabling the compositor all together to see if it helps stability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -mb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm almost certain that in my bag of tricks I had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions on 'resetting' my computer when it started acting weird but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't find them. Riddle me this: I try to leave the computer on 24/7 (maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I shouldn't do that) and twice so far I come up to it and it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-responsive or really slow to respond. 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