Well, those temperatures are not that hot, but that doesn't mean some cooling wouldn't improve things. Have you popped the case off and pointed a big fan in there and tried to reproduce the crash yet? On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Michael wrote: > Here is around 180 seconds of readings at around 10 second intervals (if > it helps): > > $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +74.5°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.5°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +75.5°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +75.5°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +75.5°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.4°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +75.0°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.2°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +75.5°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +75.5°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.5°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +75.0°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +50.9°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +75.5°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +53.6°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +75.0°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +52.4°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +75.0°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.8°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +74.5°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.1°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +74.5°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +74.5°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +52.0°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +74.0°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +50.6°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +74.5°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.4°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +75.0°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.8°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +75.0°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.9°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Brien Dieterle wrote: > >> 30 mins is plenty for a test. Try to get sensors output just before a >> crash >> >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Michael wrote: >> >>> how long do you want me to run glmark2 for? Forever is not feasible! >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Michael wrote: >>> >>>> as for the shutoff point everything that had anything to do with >>>> cutting power was already diabled >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Michael wrote: >>>> >>>>> $ sensors >>>>> radeon-pci-0100 >>>>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>>>> temp1: +68.0°C >>>>> >>>>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>>>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>>>> temp1: +45.1°C (high = +70.0°C) >>>>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Brien Dieterle >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well, it might be protecting your computer but if it is too low it >>>>>> will just be annoying. >>>>>> You still need to run sensors and get those numbers if you haven't >>>>>> yet: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-t >>>>>> emperature >>>>>> >>>>>> If your machine is legitimately overheating you need to address that >>>>>> with fans and ventilation, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> if there is a shutoff point you did say disable it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Brien Dieterle >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, you're on the right track. Try to isolate whether glmark >>>>>>>> alone can crash it, or if you need stress as well. Then try opening up >>>>>>>> your case and point a fan in there. >>>>>>>> Also don't forget to check the BIOS for thermal management events >>>>>>>> that might be causing the shutdown/reboot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> never mind..... I ran glmark around 5 minutes and then stress. >>>>>>>>> that crashed the machine! Not a nice reboot (like what it does with dt) but >>>>>>>>> a power failure outage, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> and if glmark2 doesn't crash it run stress the same amount of >>>>>>>>>> time? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> how long do I let glmark2's pretty horse rotate? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> okay >>>>>>>>>>>> ` >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Brien Dieterle < >>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd wait. If stress alone doesn't crash, run glmark2 by >>>>>>>>>>>>> itself. If glmark2 doesn't crash, run them both at the same time. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> run this now or after stress completes? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Brien Dieterle < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not yet ;-). If it doesn't crash, you might need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress the graphics card as well with one of these tools: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu-benchmarking-and-stress-testin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g-in-linux/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So maybe kick off both stress and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> glmark2 --run-forever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it doesn't crash I'll start hounding the darktable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forums. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just started..... lets see what happens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Brien Dieterle < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forget darktable for now. Did you run stress test for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 10 seconds? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This will run a stress test for 30 minutes: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 2 --timeout 1800s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can get it to crash with just this stress program, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then it has nothing to do with darktable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no sensors running and as for it panicing when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warm sometimes it panics after I run dt 2 minutes after it had been shut >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down an hour and doesn't panic even though dt had run10 minutes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brien Dieterle < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check your bios settings for hardware monitoring and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature limits. You may have it set with a maximum temperature so the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine panics when it's just warm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try raising this number or disabling the feature >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entirely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But first check your sensors by installing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature monitoring program >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017 1:04 PM, "Michael" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is sooo ify! I just ran it for like 10 minutes with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no crashes whereas before I had just started the computer and ran dt for 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes and it crashed. Then I restarted and I had a repeat performance of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2 minute thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --timeout 10s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] dispatching hogs: 8 cpu, 4 io, 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vm, 0 hdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] successful run completed in 10s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that was suppossed to tell me but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am experiencing no slowness. It is like the days >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you had a power switch on the back of your computer... or it is like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a hard reboot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Stephen Partington >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCL in darktable mainly impacts rendering. it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have no effect on on system or ram consumption unless you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiencing slowness during render cycles. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know.... I'm having trouble running darktable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems that after I start it it runs a few minutes and then reboots the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. Probably because I do not have a GPU (I don't think). Then I saw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this thread and thought that I'd give that a try. So it seems I can not run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chrome and darktable at the same time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'lspci' shows that my graphics card is : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 'lspci|grep gpu' returned an empty set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if I did that correctly) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I suppose the cheapest way to fix this is to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a gpu.... correct? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Carruth, Rusty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my experience, it’s almost always Firefox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking all of memory. (Or Chrome, or whatever web browser you’re using). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Mr B, run top or htop and see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what’s, well, on top ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rusty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: SMART_HRS_RGB] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rusty Carruth | Customer Support | *rusty.carruth@smarth.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.smarth.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: linkedin] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter] See the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new M4[image: cid:image004.jpg@01D348E7.AF930710] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See us on Storage Search >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.storagesearch.com/smart2.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 510-624-5391 <(510)%20624-5391> | Fax: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 480-926-5579 <(480)%20926-5579> | 1325 N. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fiesta Blvd. Suite 101 Gilbert, Az. 85233 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] *On >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Michael Butash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:05 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: computer slow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I ever have that, it's usually because of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something with a memory leak, or desktop graphic compositing is degrading >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you reboot, see if you can ssh into it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from another computer and check htop (or just top all you have), see if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is consuming all your memory or cpu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop compositors are all shite from what I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell (including windoze), they're all just a varying degree of broken when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you push them, or just have a slow (or buggy) video card. Depending on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your desktop environment of choice, try turning down graphics options, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabling the compositor all together to see if it helps stability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -mb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm almost certain that in my bag of tricks I had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions on 'resetting' my computer when it started acting weird but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't find them. Riddle me this: I try to leave the computer on 24/7 (maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I shouldn't do that) and twice so far I come up to it and it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-responsive or really slow to respond. 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